UIUC Unveils the Worlds Most Advanced Building
Posted by CowboyNeal on Thursday April 29, @07:23PM
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Eagle5596 writes "The University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign, one of the top Computer Science programs in the world has just officially opened their new $80 million Siebel Center. The department head describes the building as a single computing entity, meant to be programmed and to interact with those in the building via RFID tags in their ID cards. This is probably one of the biggest and most expensive projects in ubiquitous computing ever launched, touching on all the important issues in this field, from privacy to the ultimate question about the usefulness of such a system. Several papers are covering this including the Chicago Sun Times, and the Chicago Business"
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Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! (Score:5, Funny)
by FrYGuY101 (770432) on Thursday April 29, @07:24PM (#9013861)
(Last Journal: Saturday April 24, @07:35PM)
I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you in. Your GPA is too low this semester.
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* Blue hair by antic (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @07:37PM
Re:Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! (Score:5, Informative)
by YoJ (20860) on Thursday April 29, @08:43PM (#9014472)
(Last Journal: Monday July 29, @09:12PM)
This is doubly funny because in the movie 2001, HAL is actually designed at UIUC...
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o Re:Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:57PM
+ Re:Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! by YoJ (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @11:09PM
o Re:Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! by stoney27 (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @10:52PM
o Re:Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! by nico60513 (Score:1) Friday April 30, @12:21AM
+ Re:Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! by jvj24601 (Score:1) Friday April 30, @12:49AM
+ Re:Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! by Ralph Wiggam (Score:3) Friday April 30, @01:51AM
# Re:Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! by rvega (Score:1) Friday April 30, @06:44AM
* Re:Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! by CreatureComfort (Score:2) Friday April 30, @09:49AM
* Re:Damnit HAL, LET ME IN!!! by Alcohol Fueled (Score:1) Friday April 30, @03:01AM
In interaction means... (Score:3, Funny)
by el-spectre (668104) on Thursday April 29, @07:25PM (#9013868)
(Last Journal: Tuesday December 30, @08:21PM)
keeping the soda machines near me full of Dew, it's a good thing.
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* Re:In interaction means... by epanastasi (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:18PM
o Re:In interaction means... by el-spectre (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @09:04PM
* Re:In interaction means... by mattbelcher (Score:3) Thursday April 29, @08:27PM
Only mountain dew on this campus... (Score:4, Interesting)
by Benley (102665) on Thursday April 29, @08:50PM (#9014529)
(http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/ | Last Journal: Thursday October 25, @02:41AM)
Yeah... except for THIS [uiuc.edu] soda machine (which just so happens to be in the seibel center) The link points at the web server running inside the pop machine itself. The only photo I can find of the thing is here [uiuc.edu], with one of the guys who worked on it sitting in front of it. And a BeBox perched on top.
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+ Re:Only mountain dew on this campus... by utexaspunk (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @10:04PM
+ Re:Only mountain dew on this campus... by nosphalot (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @10:08PM
* Make it so. by raehl (Score:2) Friday April 30, @12:05AM
o Re:Make it so. by el-spectre (Score:2) Friday April 30, @01:10AM
* Re:In interaction means... by Dejitaru Neko (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @07:54PM
o Re:If interaction means... by el-spectre (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @08:08PM
+ Re:If interaction means... by Goldfinger7400 (Score:3) Thursday April 29, @08:42PM
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I'm not sure (Score:3, Insightful)
by odano (735445) on Thursday April 29, @07:25PM (#9013871)
I'm not sure if I like the idea that anything between me and these 4 walls is now between me and some sort of ubiquitous building-computer.
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* Re:I'm not sure by kfg (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:37PM
* Re:I'm not sure by cyril3 (Score:2) Friday April 30, @02:03AM
Siebel Center? (Score:3, Funny)
by sulli (195030) * on Thursday April 29, @07:25PM (#9013872)
(http://sulli.org/ | Last Journal: Thursday March 11, @12:25AM)
Does that mean the building is wildly overpriced and requires expensive consultants in suits to do anything right?
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Re:Siebel Center? (Score:4, Funny)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 29, @07:51PM (#9014087)
Well, yes. With all of that technology inside, they couldn't spend much on contruction or architecture, and frankly, it's a bit small. I mean, it looks great on the inside, but here's an outside view of the front entrance: click here [butlerwebs.com].
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o +2 Informative???? by fbform (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @08:20PM
+ Re:+2 Informative???? by The Cydonian (Score:3) Thursday April 29, @09:21PM
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o Hey, that's the old UIUC Woodshop! by mookoz (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @09:32PM
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* Tom Siebel is Evil by linzeal (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:10PM
o Re:Tom Siebel is Evil by justMichael (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @08:18PM
* Of course not... by poptones (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @09:04PM
Building is a single computing entity... (Score:4, Funny)
by dickiedoodles (728410) on Thursday April 29, @07:25PM (#9013876)
...Imagine a beowulf cluster of those
Sorry
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* Re:Building is a single computing entity... by Carnildo (Score:3) Thursday April 29, @07:29PM
* Re:Building is a single computing entity... by Kelz (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @07:32PM
* Re:Building is a single computing entity... by Bobdoer (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @07:56PM
* Re:Building is a single computing entity... by rpj1288 (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:46PM
* Re:Building is a single computing entity... by reCURSE (Score:1) Friday April 30, @04:27AM
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"Modern" buildings tend to not age well (Score:5, Insightful)
by winkydink (650484) * on Thursday April 29, @07:26PM (#9013883)
(Last Journal: Wednesday February 25, @01:17PM)
The old TWA terminal at JFK (round, swoopy curvy thing) and terminal 1 at CDG (aka the habitrail) both looked incredibly modern and futuristic when first opened.
The UIUC bldg sounds extremely cool, but in 5 yrs folks will be smiling politely at the "hokey-ness" of the place.
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Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well (Score:5, Insightful)
by MoTec (23112) on Thursday April 29, @07:38PM (#9013980)
I have to disagree... I just visited Bartlesville, OK on business and saw an amazing looking building, a true work of art. Frank Lloyd Wright's only "skyscraper" Price Tower [pricetower.org].
It was built in the late 50's and looks good today. Of course, Frank Lloyd Wright is considered by many to be one of the great architects of all time and the Siebel Center isn't really of the same class.
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o Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by Elwood P Dowd (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @07:42PM
Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well (Score:5, Informative)
by epanastasi (748107) on Thursday April 29, @07:44PM (#9014037)
Well, I being a current inhabitant of this "amazing" building... have yet to see this wonderful technology. Sure, I didn't really read what's been said in the papers about it, cus I know what's actually happening here. It's really stupid, the whole building. When I first walked in, my inital reaction was that the 70's threw up on it. They still haven't finished building the damn thing. And it's got way too many bugs (just like a CS building should....) like the pretty light fixtures that hang in the conference rooms cast a lovely shadow onto the projector screen. Plus, the screen in my conference room doesn't have a switch to lower it. But it's nice to know that a screen should exist. They've just installed all this RFID stuff and touch screen kiosks today... so it doesn't look like crap for the Grand Opening.
I wouldn't believe all the hype if I were you. Just like everything else, including the project I'm supposed to present at this Siebel Center Open House, it's a lot of buzzwords and catch phrases...it doesn't really do what I say it does... But a man can dream can't he?
But on another note, the elevator shafts provided a lovely rappelling trip... to bad they had to install elevators in them. (Which I mananged to crash and get stuck on the 3rd floor...like software-wise not bloody death crash)
But I'm stuck here until I graduate... what fun it will be to break the rest of it. It is however nicer than our old building... Thank you Mr. Siebel for giving us a lot of money before your company started to fail, and thanks for not asking for it back.
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o Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by Yartrebo (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @10:36PM
+ Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by Suidae (Score:2) Friday April 30, @09:37AM
+ Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by CreatureComfort (Score:2) Friday April 30, @09:59AM
o Re:Way cool! by FelixCat (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @11:13PM
o Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by Jmstuckman (Score:2) Friday April 30, @01:59AM
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o Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by Yartrebo (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @10:49PM
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o Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by dirkdidit (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @07:54PM
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* Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by cfoster611 (Score:3) Thursday April 29, @08:00PM
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Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well (Score:5, Insightful)
by winkydink (650484) * on Thursday April 29, @08:11PM (#9014245)
(Last Journal: Wednesday February 25, @01:17PM)
Ah, but are the fixtures, etc.. built to withstand the test of time. One of my company's buildings has "modular partitions" (not cubes, these are floor-to-ceiling) that are about 10 years old. Not only do they now mostly fall apart when you attempt to reconfigure them, they look dated as well.
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+ Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by phurley (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @08:38PM
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o Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:16PM
Microsoft "Buildy" (Score:5, Funny)
by AtariAmarok (451306) on Thursday April 29, @07:28PM (#9013900)
I guess they had to go and install "Microsoft Office... that is, REAL Office".
Now, when you go down the hall, the "Buildy" mascot asks things like. "You appear to be walking to the bathroom. Would you like some help?"
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* Re:Microsoft "Buildy" by antic (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @07:35PM
* Don't forget Towlet XP by Professor Cool Linux (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:17PM
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* Re:Microsoft "Buildy" by mt v2.7 (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @09:17PM
* Re:Microsoft "Buildy" by Czernobog (Score:2) Friday April 30, @10:20AM
* Microsoft Slashy by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @07:39PM
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Some of us already have advanced buildings (Score:4, Funny)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 29, @07:28PM (#9013902)
Clap on. Clap off. What else is there?
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security issues? (Score:4, Interesting)
by eisenbud (708663) on Thursday April 29, @07:29PM (#9013905)
Apparently RFID tags (and anything that doesn't have its own power source) don't have enough power to do real crypto. So this will be great until someone builds a device to read people's tags as they walk down the hall, and then impersonate any of them to the building. At least with keys or magnetic striped cards you have to get physical access to them before you can copy them.
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* Re:security issues? by Goldfinger7400 (Score:3) Thursday April 29, @08:47PM
* Re:security issues? by thecap (Score:2) Friday April 30, @01:19AM
o Re:security issues? by reCURSE (Score:1) Friday April 30, @04:47AM
Regression (Score:5, Funny)
by The_Mystic_For_Real (766020) on Thursday April 29, @07:31PM (#9013915)
(Last Journal: Wednesday April 07, @08:18PM)
This proves the point that all things human go in cycles. First computers were the size of buildings, then they shrunk down to fit in the palm, now they are becoming the size of buildings again.
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* Re:Regression by Carnildo (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @07:34PM
Dangerous? (Score:3, Interesting)
by glpierce (731733) on Thursday April 29, @07:31PM (#9013916)
(http://glpierce.deviantart.com/)
I saw the nearly-completed building a few months ago when visiting the campus. My immediate reaction: this can't be healthy. With that many wires and that many radio signals (RFID, wireless network, etc), I can't help but think that it will increase your risk of developing cancer. Normal offices are bad enough, but this place has significantly more in the air.
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Re:Dangerous? (Score:5, Informative)
by Carnildo (712617) on Thursday April 29, @07:37PM (#9013969)
(http://secondlife.com/)
Considering that the only scientifically-verified consequence of overexposure to radio waves is radio burns -- and that only happens at very high energy densities -- I wouldn't worry about cancer.
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o Not true... by raehl (Score:2) Friday April 30, @12:11AM
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* Re:Dangerous? by Eagle5596 (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @07:39PM
o Re:Dangerous? by cj171 (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:01PM
o Re:Dangerous? by glpierce (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @08:03PM
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Am I the only one... (Score:3, Interesting)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 29, @07:33PM (#9013929)
.. who expects that the brutal hacks done to Gaia are going to be much better 'learning experiences' for everyone than the official software itself?
Gotta wonder what kind of security they've got on her. If I had my face scanned everytime I entered a room, and had some stupid voice asking me questions when I just wanted to finish my assignment back when I was in school, the system would have been modified drastically during finals week.....
Not that I would condone such now, of course. Probably get you labeled a terrorist and thrown under the jail.
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The Real Privacy Question (Score:5, Funny)
by Eagle5596 (575899)
on Thursday April 29, @07:35PM (#9013948)
The real issue with privacy of course is turning off the location function when you don't want something embarressing happening. I present the following situation as evidence:
Johnny wanted to find Professor X to ask a question about his research paper, approaching the wall he intoned, "Computer, please locate Professor X."
In a booming voice the wall responded, "Professor X is currently in Stall 5 of the Bathroom on the second floor, logging in."
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* Re:The Real Privacy Question by Carnildo (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @07:40PM
o Re:The Real Privacy Question by synaptik (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:03PM
* Re:The Real Privacy Question by zuhl (Score:3) Thursday April 29, @07:54PM
o Re:The Real Privacy Question by thecap (Score:1) Friday April 30, @01:28AM
+ Re:The Real Privacy Question by Liora (Score:2) Friday April 30, @10:19AM
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* No, wrong area. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:09PM
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* Re:The Real Privacy Question by tricops (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @08:29PM
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o Re:The Real Privacy Question by nosphalot (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @10:20PM
* Re:The Real Privacy Question by arothmanmusic (Score:1) Friday April 30, @12:18AM
And the best part is... (Score:2, Informative)
by Osiris Ani (230116) on Thursday April 29, @07:40PM (#9013999)
(http://www.osirisani.com/)
Salaryman [salaryman.org] is playing at the grand opening tomorrow afternoon.
Oh... and sure, the building's nice, too.
--
"It's better to have an attention span and not need it, than to need whatever it is we were just talking about."
- Mayor {Powerpuff Girls}
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Interface (Score:1)
by tarpoon (664825) on Thursday April 29, @07:41PM (#9014013)
(Last Journal: Wednesday April 30, @06:27PM)
All the hardware exist today to make advanced computer controlled buildings. But who wants to stand beside a lightswitch, fiddling with the remote in the dark to find the correct button to push? The problem is the interface. You have to be able to talk to the system to operate it. It's not good enough walking around with a microphone, or stand beside that lightswitch talking into a microphone. Beside, it should alos recognize you when you tell it show your email on the screen in the kitchen, either by voice or by face recognition.
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* Re:Interface by gilrain (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:32PM
Sup with the site? (Score:1)
by Unnngh! (731758) on Thursday April 29, @07:43PM (#9014028)
No webcams, not even any pics...seems like there would be some level of interaction over the 'net for such a "wired" building. Maybe these things are yet to come?
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* Re:Sup with the site? by Zelxyb (Score:3) Thursday April 29, @08:36PM
Apostrophize much? (Score:1, Troll)
by stevejsmith (614145) on Thursday April 29, @07:43PM (#9014032)
(Last Journal: Sunday April 20, @08:39PM)
It should be "UIUC Unveils the World's Most Advanced Buildin," maybe?
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* Re:Apostrophize much? by Zcipher (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:29PM
Irony, indeed (Score:2, Funny)
by geekychic (732496) on Thursday April 29, @07:47PM (#9014058)
I can't believe on the eve of the night when my school's unveiling the most technologically advanced building in the world, the campus mail is down >=( Prioritize, much?
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* Re:Irony, indeed by garbletext (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:00PM
* Re:Irony, indeed by cfoster611 (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @10:17PM
* Re:Irony, indeed by reCURSE (Score:1) Friday April 30, @04:50AM
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I wonder... (Score:1)
by deathguppie (768263) on Thursday April 29, @07:50PM (#9014078)
How much their next upgrade is gonna cost??
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* Re:I wonder... by boogy nightmare (Score:2) Friday April 30, @05:26AM
BFG Competition? (Score:2, Interesting)
by uujjj (752925) on Thursday April 29, @07:52PM (#9014092)
The web site for the opening lists one of the events as a BFG Competition [uiuc.edu]. Apparently, they will be broadcasting the thing around the world. Also, they will record the competition for future viewings. Hmmm . . . only in computer science could they be proud.
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* Re:BFG Competition? by Benley (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @08:53PM
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1000 Words (Score:2, Interesting)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 29, @07:52PM (#9014095)
Anyone able to find a neat photo gallery on the site? I looked, but could only find some movies of the grand opening. The itty bitty pictures make the place look nice, but I'd love to see more details. Wonder what their sever room(s) look like...
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in a side note... (Score:2, Funny)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 29, @07:56PM (#9014123)
2 hours later the building was declared obsolete by new technologies...
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This will be fun to watch... (Score:5, Insightful)
by Black Art (3335) on Thursday April 29, @08:06PM (#9014203)
I am waiting for the first time they blow the breakers on the circuit that handles their security computer.
What happens? Does the system fail to "everything is locked"?
This sounds like a RISKS article waiting to happen.
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* Re:This will be fun to watch... by epanastasi (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @08:12PM
Re:This will be fun to watch... (Score:5, Informative)
by Ironsides (739422) on Thursday April 29, @08:15PM (#9014272)
All electronic locks I have ever seen default to unlocked when the power goes off. This is the way they are built, not wired. So if the power goes out, they WILL unlock (and they did unlock too, when the power went out). This is probably required by the fire code so that people are not trapped in a burning building.
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o Re:This will be fun to watch... by phallstrom (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @08:38PM
+ Re:This will be fun to watch... by rebelcool (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @09:30PM
o Re:This will be fun to watch... by pipingguy (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @08:56PM
+ Re:This will be fun to watch... by cyril3 (Score:2) Friday April 30, @02:20AM
Re:This will be fun to watch... (Score:4, Funny)
by timeOday (582209) on Thursday April 29, @09:05PM (#9014648)
Even big safes full of bonds and stuff do that, as I learned watching "Die Hard."
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o Re:This will be fun to watch... by back_pages (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @09:51PM
+ Re:This will be fun to watch... by back_pages (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @09:54PM
o Re:This will be fun to watch... by pHDNgell (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @11:01PM
o Re:This will be fun to watch... by webmaestro (Score:2) Thursday April 29, @11:15PM
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As long as it isn't running Windows (Score:2, Funny)
by potuncle (583651) on Thursday April 29, @08:10PM (#9014235)
When it crashes does it become the BBOD (Blue Building of Death)?
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Re:As long as it isn't running Windows (Score:5, Funny)
by Mad Bad Rabbit (539142) on Thursday April 29, @10:00PM (#9015020)
Of course, if it's running UNIX then it would
crash with "Segmentation fault: floor dumped".
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o Re:As long as it isn't running Windows by reCURSE (Score:1) Friday April 30, @04:56AM
Even cooler than their last building? (Score:2)
by Monthenor (42511) <[gro.keegog] [ta] [ronehtnom]> on Thursday April 29, @08:10PM (#9014237)
(http://www.gerbilmechs.com/)
I can't wait for next year's Mechmania. The building they had before was larger than anything at NDSU (with a lot more wasted space). Now I have all-new nooks and hallways to explore!
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Finally, a chance to get back... (Score:5, Funny)
by sklib (26440) on Thursday April 29, @08:11PM (#9014242)
Now all you need to get back at a professor you don't like is hack into the building's computer, and turn off the air conditioning in whatever room he goes into.
Sweet revenge!
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* Re:Finally, a chance to get back... by TheCyko1 (Score:1) Friday April 30, @05:50AM
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Salary (Score:3, Interesting)
by GrEp (89884) on Thursday April 29, @08:12PM (#9014261)
(http://www.public.iastate.edu/~crb002)
$80000000/$100000=800. Hmm...
800 faculty years of almost anyone in the world, or one building. Good going UIUC.
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* Re:Salary by uujjj (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:17PM
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* Re:Salary by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:43PM
* Bad math. by raehl (Score:2) Friday April 30, @12:25AM
* Re:Salary by ianaverage (Score:1) Friday April 30, @02:14AM
The perfect excuse (Score:3, Funny)
by Uninen (746304) on Thursday April 29, @08:18PM (#9014299)
(http://www.unessa.net/en/)
...when caught from a bar near by:
"Nooo. Can't go to school, they're running critical updates on our building today!"
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The One (Score:2)
by Woogiemonger (628172) on Thursday April 29, @08:21PM (#9014321)
There will be war between computers and all of humanity until Keanu Reeves shows up in the building to negotiate terms!
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now what to do with DCL... (Score:1)
by puppithead (775740) on Thursday April 29, @08:29PM (#9014384)
I always thought it would make a great Quake level, so I'm kinda pushing for them to turn it into a paintball arena...think any of the administration would go for this?
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* Not likely by _defiant_ (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @09:33PM
* Until recently... (like, last week) by raehl (Score:3) Friday April 30, @12:36AM
UIUC (Score:2)
by Malc (1751) on Thursday April 29, @08:31PM (#9014394)
"The University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign, one of the top Computer Science programs in the world "
Who? Can't say that I've ever heard of them. Where do they appear on the list of other top western universities like MIT, Stanford, Cambridge, Oxford, etc? Is this some kind of in-place advertizing thing?
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* Re:UIUC by seringen (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @08:41PM
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No spell-checker if that $80 mill? (Score:3, Funny)
by Missionary Man (740863) on Thursday April 29, @08:48PM (#9014511)
Nice building.
Shame they didn't get a spell-checker with it. I believe the reference to "Accomodations" on the main page of their website should read "Accommodations".
Ho hum. Am I being too picky?
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* Re:No spell-checker if that $80 mill? by jcuervo (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @09:36PM
o Re:No spell-checker if that $80 mill? by Missionary Man (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @11:05PM
Espresso bar! (Score:2, Funny)
by jcuervo (715139) on Thursday April 29, @09:38PM (#9014861)
They failed to mention whether caffeine was gratis or not.
If it's free, I'm going to college.
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Hey, I used to live there! (Score:2, Funny)
by bob_shoggoth (15253) on Thursday April 29, @11:19PM (#9015515)
So now I know why they bought and knocked down my old apartment building!
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* Re:Hey, I used to live there! by slamden (Score:1) Friday April 30, @09:45AM
kewl (Score:2, Informative)
by wviperw (706068) on Thursday April 29, @11:40PM (#9015648)
(http://www.planetquake.com/wvw/ | Last Journal: Monday January 19, @03:13AM)
Surprisingly enough, I just happened to visit this building this past Monday. I was taking a visit to UIUC (thinking about transferring there) for the first time, and was referred to this building, since I'm a CS major.
When I was in there Monday, all kinds of work was being done on the building--I would have never thought it'd be done so soon. I absolutely loved the architecture though, very very cool. And I can't count how many "50 inch plasma screens on wheels" I saw in the various rooms.
And just think, all that above deeply impressed me, and I didn't even have a clue that the building was going to be a giant computer/the first of its kind.
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who cares about computers? (Score:1)
by diablobsb (444773) on Thursday April 29, @11:54PM (#9015720)
who cares about computers?
will we have Milla Jovovich fighting zombies on this one?
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"Most advanced???" (Score:2)
by swordgeek (112599) on Friday April 30, @12:15AM (#9015804)
(Last Journal: Monday May 05, @07:46PM)
So just how does "lots of computer-related toys" translate to "most advanced?"
Seriously, where's the discussion about environmental controls? HVAC improvements? Energy efficiency? Chemical and electronic emissions?
Don't get me wrong--this isn't a bad idea, nor is it a bad building. It's cool but relatively straightforward to create a building with endless technological integration, on the level they're talking.
But HVAC is a very big, expensive, INCREDIBLY important, and not yet solved problem, which probably has more long-term relevance than anything they spent $80M on in this project.
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photos of siebel center at night. (Score:2, Informative)
by bigtrick (755064) on Friday April 30, @12:34AM (#9015899)
i took some; they're . [bigtrick.com]
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* Re:photos of siebel center at night. by bigtrick (Score:1) Friday April 30, @12:37AM
Sign of Impending Failure (Score:1)
by wwi (243026) on Friday April 30, @01:42AM (#9016201)
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My personal experience has been that
when an organization builds a fantastic,
expensive new building, the organization
itself is on the verge of failure, and you
can expect it to be out of business in
a very short time.
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Been there - building is awesome, network sucks (Score:1)
by Paco103 (758133) on Friday April 30, @02:20AM (#9016316)
We were there for the Microsoft Imagine Cup contest a couple weeks ago. The building is totally sweet, and looks amazing. The bathroom has solid chrome hand-dryers. (I know that's not THAT much - but considering at MY school the paper towel dispensers don't always work. . . ) The only complaint I have is their network connection. You connect, it asks you to logon. I choose guest authentication, enter my info/purpose (We are there for legitimate CS business) - and it lets me on. Sometimes it lasts for an hour, sometimes it asks you to log on when you click a link from the authentication success screen. I checked cookies, so that wasn't it, and we were ALL having that problem. Seems like the worlds most advanced building needs an upgrade already :P It still makes me happy and I want to go there. . . too bad I'm not rich :(
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RFID Tags and privacy... (Score:1)
by ChronoWiz (709439) on Friday April 30, @02:25AM (#9016332)
I can feel my knee jerking already!
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Stanford's building problems (Score:2)
by Animats (122034) on Friday April 30, @03:18AM (#9016481)
(http://www.animats.com)
Stanford has been doing badly with new science buildings.
First came the building for the IC designers. This has its very own wafer fab. Unfortunately, it's a 1980s wafer fab. Wafer fabs are too expensive to keep up to date unless they're heavily used. So it's obsolete. If you want something fabbed, you send it out.
Then came the Gates Computer Science building. This is where AI went to die. Visit the second floor "Knowledge Systems Lab", and see all the empty cubicles with obsolete computers. The layout is wierd; the basement and first floor are difficult to get to from each other, and are connected only via a seminar room. The corridors are devoted to a museum of old computer equipment, of mixed historical importance. ("Wow, an '80s DEC Ethernet hub! There's a Gandalf port selector box!")
Then there was the Lane Medical Library. Built with built-in stacks just as medical data was going online, it's used as office space. The immovable stacks remain, dividing up the space into long narrow office aisles.
Then came the New Engineering Quad. Finished at the height of the dot-com boom, it looks great. But it has all the wrong built-in stuff, like in-wall VCRs. More museum area. ("Wow, an original HP audio oscillator!") Good expresso bar, though.
The latest building is the Clarke Center for Biotech Engineering Stuff. Jim Clarke put up the money just before Netscape tanked. SGI contributed an obsolete supercomputer. Nobody seems quite sure what's going on there. The building has the overdesigned look of the free-spending dot-com era. There's steel and glass and balconies and atriums.
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UIUC indeed. (Score:1)
by Geekwad (309774) on Friday April 30, @04:05AM (#9016590)
(http://pakman.sytes.net/)
I actually have the pleasure of having a class at Siebel next semester (my Compilers class) as well as having used it for my video editing needs this semester. -- It's a beautiful building. Balconies, courtyards, art-deco frosted glass tables, windowed offices .. it's gorgeous. Not to mention all of its RFID capabilities, certainly .. it's definitively the nicest building on campus.
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software architecture (Score:2)
by ragnar (3268) on Friday April 30, @06:52AM (#9017087)
(http://www.solariscentral.org/)
After years of hearing all those poor analogies about how software development should be more like building an edifice, we get to see it in practice. Let's just hope they don't need to do too many patches. ;)
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Every CS department is the best in the WORLD!!! (Score:1)
by atlacatl (161963) on Friday April 30, @09:04AM (#9017582)
(http://www.josesandoval.com/)
:)
"one of the top Computer Science programs in the world" - I've heard this claim from almost every University with a CS department. I thought the University of Waterloo was "one" of the bes...blah, blah...
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Am I the only person (Score:1)
by krgallagher (743575) on Friday April 30, @09:24AM (#9017732)
(http://www.krgallagher.com/)
When I saw the headline "Worlds Most Advanced Building", the first thing I thought of was the old Tom and Jerry cartoons where Tom chases Jerry into the "House of the Future."
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Re:I go here (Score:1)
by Ziviyr (95582) on Thursday April 29, @07:32PM (#9013921)
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How can you tell?
80 million dollars couldn't afford a photo gallery, just an .asx link.
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Re:I go here (Score:2, Informative)
by crispy1083 (636320) on Thursday April 29, @07:32PM (#9013922)
I'm going to have to disagree. Although there are parts that look odd and half finished, like the metal beams jutting out over the entrances, walking around the back and seeing the gigantic wall of glass is kind of cool. And it's purdy on the inside. Reminds me of DCL, actually.
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Re:Cards (Score:1)
by RadioFreeSource (774204) on Thursday April 29, @07:38PM (#9013975)
I assume the would, I mean, why not eh? =) VUINCED! [assassinsunited.com]
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What are you smoking? (Score:3, Interesting)
by Eagle5596 (575899) on Thursday April 29, @07:44PM (#9014041)
UIUC still has some of the greatest minds in computer science, including Michael Heath, probably one of the most brilliant computer scientists of our time. They continue to attract some of the highest calibre students in the world, both nationally and internationally, and have a staff with more citations and awards than most schools can even dream of. They are the site of one NCSA facility, soon to be another one, and one of the DoE's advanced research centers. Most recently they have discovered new fabrication processes for IC's, light emitting transistors, and they continue to push the bounds of excellence in computer science.
This building isn't an effort to revive a program (currently ranked #3 in Engineering, #3 in ECE, and #5 in CS), it's a natural step taking to increase the facilities available to accomidate recent advances by the University, and a continuously growing program which time and time again excells in all areas.
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* Re:What are you smoking? by _defiant_ (Score:1) Thursday April 29, @09:38PM
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Re:go see salaryman!! (Score:1)
by puppithead (775740) on Thursday April 29, @08:16PM (#9014280)
Never heard any salaryman stuff, but Poster Children are definately worth checking out. I'm definately there. morning drinking...class...free show...edward 40 hands...tomorrow's gonna be a great day
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Re:As a CS student in the siebel center right now. (Score:2, Interesting)
by reCURSE (532618) on Friday April 30, @05:00AM (#9016764)
(http://slashdot.org/)
I watched Prof. Jeff Erickson swipe three times before the reader finally recognized him. The elevators fried for a few hours the other night too. It'll all be nice and pretty in a few months.
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